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Hi hope to get some honest help here . Can anyone tell me a fair market value for these pieces and exactly what they are . I am helping a woman settle an estate and want to get here the most I can for them 

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Mike:

Thanks for posting your inquiry and photos.  The receiver and power amplifier is from a Philharmonic, the full featured 30-tube model from early to mid-1938.  This model used a special 15-inch pedestal speaker that I do not see in your photos.  The big factors affecting value of the Philharmonic chassis set include how complete the set is (are the 15-inch speaker and control and dial escutcheons available to be kept with the chassis?), the condition of the chrome, and how original the set is.  The set for which you have provided photos appears to have somewhat distressed chrome on the top of the chassis but the shield cans appear better than average and the filter capacitors on the power amplifier are not original.  In this condition the chassis set is a good candidate for restoration by someone who has or can get the speaker and escutcheons and almost to good to consider for parts.  As such I would consider the set to have a value in the range of $400 to $800.

Norman

Well that is a disappointment . Today local museum guys said if she had the speaker the speaker alone would be worth 6 to 10k And these two pieces would be worth $2500  

I would put it's value at $400, though E-bay may get a little more depending on the bidding.  The dial is shot and the chrome is fair, though better pictures may change my mind about the chrome. 

For comparison, a Philharmonic tuner chassis similar to this, sold on E-bay last September for $450, in active bidding, and it was in notably better condition, and from a top seller.  The amp may produce $200. 

Selling on E-bay is going to cost you 15% and possible headaches as the seller is always responsible for all that may go wrong in shipping, etc.

Also for comparison, I purchased this set for $300- and I gave the guy his highest offer: http://antiqueradios.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=270161&...

Sure, the chrome is not very good, but I got a dial escutcheon and original knob set that are nearly impossible to get and worth nearly that money alone. 

I would be interested if you want an off E-bay sale. 

Where do you live?

Guy has no clue what he is talking about.  Maybe they watch too much TV.

Last 2-  15" speakers for this set sold on E-bay for $350 and $425.  They used to sell for a little more and maybe even crack the $1k mark, but not now. 

A chassis and amp that was completely re-chromed and MINT did not sell on e-bay for that much money. 

There are 18" Jenson speakers that will sell for many thousands, but they were never used in EH Scott sets.

The Jensen 18-inch speakers were used in the Scott Quaranta and were promoted for special funeral parlor installations with a special AW-27 amplifier chassis.  According to the chief engineer at EH Scott Radio Laboratories at the time, only 10 to 12 Quaranta receivers were built and no evidence exists of any funeral parlor installation sale.  The 18-inch speaker was certainly not used in any other Scott models.

Norman

So, if you are the only person with a Quaranta Norman, then you have the only 18" Jensen that was used in a Scott set it would seem. 

For the OP's knowledge, the 18" jensons were used in some McMurdo Silvers (and maybe a few others)  and sell for about $4k according to Bruce in this thread:  http://ehscott.ning.com/forum/topics/mcmurdo-silver-masterpiece-sets

There are other speakers, like some Western Electrics that sell for thousands, but none were used in Scotts. 

Scott:

I have two Quaranta sets.  One has the complete original speaker set and the other has a Jensen 18-inch speaker with specifications near identical to that used in the Quaranta (fortunately).  A second genuine Quaranta 18-inch woofer turned up on eBay a few years ago but I was outbid by another member here.  The 18-inch Jensen speakers were used in the McMurdo Silver Masterpiece V and VI receivers, the Crosley WLW (two known in collector captivity), and in a very rare model of Capehart receiver as well as in some theater and auditorium installations.

Norman

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jensen-18-034-Super-Giant-Speaker-made-for-...

Now I know nothing about this stuff but I would not classify this as as nice example . Repainted repaired and it brought 7k

  

Mike -

I concur with the comments above. The Scott Philharmonic is arguably the finest radio ever built. 

Took me many years to acquire the control escutcheons and dial ring and glass for mine. Your receiver chrome may polish up pretty well, but can't be sure until someone trys it with the proper product, a time consuming project. The amp has more serious rust. Then there is the repo dial and set of knobs to buy.  The proper speaker is required and the radio cannot be operated without it in as much as the speaker's field coil is part of the high voltage circuit. Meanwhile, do NOT  connect the amp to the chassis and try to power it up. 

To approach the $2000 plus value you quoted  for an unrestored Philharmonic, would  require very successful chrome polishing of the receiver and the amp, plus finding the proper replacement dial, correct knobs, set of correct bright gold control and eye escutcheons, dial bezel with glass crystal, and the correct 15 inch Magnavox pedestal speaker in good condition. Yours falls considerably short, but appears to be  a good candidate for restoration by the right person.

Scott cabinets for a Philharmonic are scarce, too. Check back with that the lady the be sure there is no cabinet somewhere, perhaps with the speaker still in it.

This is the special McMurdo Silver 18-inch speaker made by Jensen and, as a McMurdo Silver version for which replacement cones are simply not available, one in better than average condition.  I would certainly consider this one to be a nice serviceable but not factory original condition example.  But this is not a correct or appropriate speaker for the Scott Philharmonic for which you posted photos.  It is my understanding that this particular speaker was purchased by a collector with the intent of completing a McMurdo Silver receiver and not by a reseller or hi-fi "collector/investor".

Norman

Mike Mclaughlin said:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jensen-18-034-Super-Giant-Speaker-made-for-...

Now I know nothing about this stuff but I would not classify this as as nice example . Repainted repaired and it brought 7k

   

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