Looking for a Hi Fi Crossover Box - EH Scott Radio Enthusiasts2024-03-29T14:10:02Zhttps://ehscott.ning.com/forum/topics/looking-for-a-hi-fi-crossover-box?commentId=3925821%3AComment%3A92747&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThought I'd put in an update.…tag:ehscott.ning.com,2020-12-25:3925821:Comment:932912020-12-25T20:17:36.706ZKarl Sherwinhttps://ehscott.ning.com/profile/KarlSherwin
<p>Thought I'd put in an update.</p>
<p>After a few false starts (a very long story), I ended driving out 2 weeks ago to pick up the AM FM Philharmonic. The set did not have a cabinet so it wasn't to difficult to load into the CRV. Its dirty, a lot of nicotine, some of the larger cans on the tuner have some chrome bubbling and some of the smaller square cans have some small dents, but once I get it cleaned up it will be OK, not mint but nice.</p>
<p>Kent, the tuner serial # is LL-471 and…</p>
<p>Thought I'd put in an update.</p>
<p>After a few false starts (a very long story), I ended driving out 2 weeks ago to pick up the AM FM Philharmonic. The set did not have a cabinet so it wasn't to difficult to load into the CRV. Its dirty, a lot of nicotine, some of the larger cans on the tuner have some chrome bubbling and some of the smaller square cans have some small dents, but once I get it cleaned up it will be OK, not mint but nice.</p>
<p>Kent, the tuner serial # is LL-471 and inside the Amp chassis is a hand written RR-339.</p>
<p>2 surprises, one OK, the other disappointing. The baffle had a Tauscher board installed. Nice to look at but akin to putting a curtain over a lighthouse. The other was that one of the tweeters has an open voice coil. Looking for suggestions to have someone "recoil" it and hopefully be able to save the original cone and surround.</p>
<p>The speaker connector on the amp was replaced with an octal, and the speaker plug was replaced with a 9 pin "octal" style plug. The crossover box was long gone, so I can only guess why these plugs/sockets were changed. I'd like to get the amp back to stock, I know the speaker socket was a smaller pin circle than the one for the tuner, and the 2 large pins were opposite each other as opposed to next to each other but could I rework a 6A7 style wafer tube socket which is the small 7-pin for this? Of course if someone has a chassis they are parting out please let me know.</p>
<p>The filter caps were replaced at one point, will try to decipher the info on the cap to get the manufacturer and date code. But they all measure good (capacitance and dissipation). It'll be a while before I attempt to power the set up but will reform the caps first and recheck them before going further. </p>
<p>Lastly, I'm missing one of the round wooden knobs, could use 2 as one is in poor shape. If anyone has some please let me know.</p>
<p>I'll post some pics as I get it cleaned up, and I'm sure I'll have more questions as I dig into it.</p>
<p>Karl</p>
<p></p> Scott - my other version of t…tag:ehscott.ning.com,2020-12-09:3925821:Comment:931772020-12-09T21:34:17.968ZDavid C. Polandhttps://ehscott.ning.com/profile/DavidCPoland
<p>Scott - my other version of the FM Philharmonic owners manual has been aded to the Philly set folder.</p>
<p>Look at page 3 for the crossover illustration. Otherwise it is almost identical, page for page.</p>
<p>Scott - my other version of the FM Philharmonic owners manual has been aded to the Philly set folder.</p>
<p>Look at page 3 for the crossover illustration. Otherwise it is almost identical, page for page.</p> Sometime when you come up I'l…tag:ehscott.ning.com,2020-11-14:3925821:Comment:927582020-11-14T00:52:08.397ZKent Kinghttps://ehscott.ning.com/profile/KentKing
<p>Sometime when you come up I'll scan it on my good scanner and make a searchable PDF. Thanks!</p>
<p>Kent<br></br> <br></br> <cite>David C. Poland said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://ehscott.ning.com/forum/topics/looking-for-a-hi-fi-crossover-box?commentId=3925821%3AComment%3A92757&xg_source=activity#3925821Comment92923"><div><p>Scott - I stand corrected.</p>
<p>Having just opened the owners Instruction Manual on the Scott site, to refresh myself.</p>
<p>I looked at a lot of Phantom and…</p>
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<p>Sometime when you come up I'll scan it on my good scanner and make a searchable PDF. Thanks!</p>
<p>Kent<br/> <br/> <cite>David C. Poland said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://ehscott.ning.com/forum/topics/looking-for-a-hi-fi-crossover-box?commentId=3925821%3AComment%3A92757&xg_source=activity#3925821Comment92923"><div><p>Scott - I stand corrected.</p>
<p>Having just opened the owners Instruction Manual on the Scott site, to refresh myself.</p>
<p>I looked at a lot of Phantom and Philly manuals and Scott News looking for crossover info - guess I forgot exactly what was in the Info Archive.</p>
<p>Kent. - I will make my version early FM Philly manual available to you. </p>
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</blockquote> I would be interested in seei…tag:ehscott.ning.com,2020-11-13:3925821:Comment:927572020-11-13T23:11:07.636ZScott Seickelhttps://ehscott.ning.com/profile/ScottSeickel
<p>I would be interested in seeing that manual David. Hopefully, it can be scanned and uploaded to the site.</p>
<p>I would be interested in seeing that manual David. Hopefully, it can be scanned and uploaded to the site.</p> Scott - I stand corrected.
Ha…tag:ehscott.ning.com,2020-11-13:3925821:Comment:929232020-11-13T21:26:36.216ZDavid C. Polandhttps://ehscott.ning.com/profile/DavidCPoland
<p>Scott - I stand corrected.</p>
<p>Having just opened the owners Instruction Manual on the Scott site, to refresh myself.</p>
<p>I looked at a lot of Phantom and Philly manuals and Scott News looking for crossover info - guess I forgot exactly what was in the Info Archive.</p>
<p>Kent. - I will make my version early FM Philly manual available to you. </p>
<p>Scott - I stand corrected.</p>
<p>Having just opened the owners Instruction Manual on the Scott site, to refresh myself.</p>
<p>I looked at a lot of Phantom and Philly manuals and Scott News looking for crossover info - guess I forgot exactly what was in the Info Archive.</p>
<p>Kent. - I will make my version early FM Philly manual available to you. </p> Scott - you said above NOV 6…tag:ehscott.ning.com,2020-11-13:3925821:Comment:927562020-11-13T21:06:43.133ZDavid C. Polandhttps://ehscott.ning.com/profile/DavidCPoland
<p>Scott - you said above NOV 6 that your FM Philharmonic manual showed 1) jones plugs and 2) cable to the receiver to control the tweeters. That is the FM Philly owners Instruction Manual for which Kent seeks a copy.</p>
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<p>My FM Philly owners Instruction Manual on page 3 shows the 1) crossover and tweeters, 2) early style crossover, 3) NO little cable to the receiver from the crossover, 4) the logging scale at the top of the dial page 10 and 5) three old style round set…</p>
<p>Scott - you said above NOV 6 that your FM Philharmonic manual showed 1) jones plugs and 2) cable to the receiver to control the tweeters. That is the FM Philly owners Instruction Manual for which Kent seeks a copy.</p>
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<p>My FM Philly owners Instruction Manual on page 3 shows the 1) crossover and tweeters, 2) early style crossover, 3) NO little cable to the receiver from the crossover, 4) the logging scale at the top of the dial page 10 and 5) three old style round set plugs.</p>
<p></p> Thanks for checking. I'm stil…tag:ehscott.ning.com,2020-11-13:3925821:Comment:929222020-11-13T19:29:31.577ZKent Kinghttps://ehscott.ning.com/profile/KentKing
<p>Thanks for checking. I'm still only aware of that one FM Philly manual.<br/> <br/> <cite>Scott Seickel said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://ehscott.ning.com/forum/topics/looking-for-a-hi-fi-crossover-box?commentId=3925821%3AComment%3A92752&xg_source=activity#3925821Comment92752"><div><p>Kent,</p>
<p>My manual is the same as you have in the archives here. </p>
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<p>Thanks for checking. I'm still only aware of that one FM Philly manual.<br/> <br/> <cite>Scott Seickel said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://ehscott.ning.com/forum/topics/looking-for-a-hi-fi-crossover-box?commentId=3925821%3AComment%3A92752&xg_source=activity#3925821Comment92752"><div><p>Kent,</p>
<p>My manual is the same as you have in the archives here. </p>
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My manual is the same a…tag:ehscott.ning.com,2020-11-13:3925821:Comment:927522020-11-13T18:36:58.251ZScott Seickelhttps://ehscott.ning.com/profile/ScottSeickel
<p>Kent,</p>
<p>My manual is the same as you have in the archives here. </p>
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<p>Kent,</p>
<p>My manual is the same as you have in the archives here. </p>
<p></p> Scott -
I'd be interested in…tag:ehscott.ning.com,2020-11-09:3925821:Comment:929752020-11-09T12:07:47.205ZKent Kinghttps://ehscott.ning.com/profile/KentKing
<p>Scott -</p>
<p>I'd be interested in getting a copy of the FM Philly manual you have if it is different than the one posted here in the archive. The variations continue to help us track things they did back then. Thanks!!</p>
<p>Kent<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Scott Seickel said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://ehscott.ning.com/forum/topics/looking-for-a-hi-fi-crossover-box?commentId=3925821%3AComment%3A92916&xg_source=activity#3925821Comment92748"><div><p>David, </p>
<p>The AM/FM…</p>
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<p>Scott -</p>
<p>I'd be interested in getting a copy of the FM Philly manual you have if it is different than the one posted here in the archive. The variations continue to help us track things they did back then. Thanks!!</p>
<p>Kent<br/> <br/> <cite>Scott Seickel said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://ehscott.ning.com/forum/topics/looking-for-a-hi-fi-crossover-box?commentId=3925821%3AComment%3A92916&xg_source=activity#3925821Comment92748"><div><p>David, </p>
<p>The AM/FM Philharmonic manual I have does show the cable to the receiver, but it also references them as being rectangular plugs (jones plugs), so that makes it the last version. I am glad that you have a manual that doesn't show the control cable, which means my crossover was used on FM Philharmonics and likely original to my FM chassis that does not have the socket on the rear apron, though this seems to be a very uncommon crossover setup. </p>
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<p>So, can I conclude that there were no AM only sets produced that have the 4 pin socket as it was used to turn the tweeters off on AM?....which leads me to believe that the 4 piece hi-fi option was not available for AM only sets?.....Or, could the crossover without the control cable have been used for AM only sets? Which leads you to think why would they even offer it on the AM only sets if they were turning off the tweeters in the AM/FM set....The fact that they decided to turn off the tweeters on AM throws a monkey wrench into the whole issue. Scott definitely made changes to the Philharmonic line as it progressed, but other than the major 7 knob to 9 knob revision, and the AM/FM revision, the changes were all small.</p>
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<p>As a side note, I have recently been testing several 15" pedestal speakers and to do so I plug them into my AM/FM set with the hi-fi option. I think that the 15" flange mount speaker sounds noticeably better than the pedestals. </p>
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This Scott site Arc…tag:ehscott.ning.com,2020-11-07:3925821:Comment:929162020-11-07T03:00:59.865ZDavid C. Polandhttps://ehscott.ning.com/profile/DavidCPoland
<p>Scott - t</p>
<p>This Scott site Archive set folder for Philharmonic includes the FM owners manual which appears same as mine - without the crossover small cable. Kent has a lot of Scott literature, and probably has the later version manual you have showing the crossover cable.</p>
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<p>This Scott site Archive set folder for Philharmonic includes the FM owners manual which appears same as mine - without the crossover small cable. Kent has a lot of Scott literature, and probably has the later version manual you have showing the crossover cable.</p>