Philly Loose Ends during Startup - EH Scott Radio Enthusiasts2024-03-29T10:31:23Zhttps://ehscott.ning.com/forum/topics/philly-loose-ends-during-startup?commentId=3925821%3AComment%3A46841&feed=yes&xn_auth=noMy pointer stationized dial c…tag:ehscott.ning.com,2015-01-29:3925821:Comment:469462015-01-29T03:20:58.545ZDavid C. Polandhttps://ehscott.ning.com/profile/DavidCPoland
<p>My pointer stationized dial close-ups - hard to discern, but note the small vernier pointer reaches just into the inner vernier scale tic marks. Also note the size of my pointer, which would not reach the dial broadcast band of the standard pointer dial.<br></br> Note also that my upper scale has 4 divisions. and they do not line up with the lower 3 scales divisions. On the standard dial, the 3 upper and 3 lower scale divisions do line up. Now, consider the dial lamp complications.<br></br> My 4 th…</p>
<p>My pointer stationized dial close-ups - hard to discern, but note the small vernier pointer reaches just into the inner vernier scale tic marks. Also note the size of my pointer, which would not reach the dial broadcast band of the standard pointer dial.<br/> Note also that my upper scale has 4 divisions. and they do not line up with the lower 3 scales divisions. On the standard dial, the 3 upper and 3 lower scale divisions do line up. Now, consider the dial lamp complications.<br/>
My 4 th upper stationized scale has its own dial lamp traveling above the Broadcast band lamp. The dial mask has holes aligned with the Chicago station frequencies as of 1937 (and also WLW Cincinnati). So the top dial lamp peaks through only when on a Chicago station frequency. The station call letters are printed on the glass above or below the little circle printed on the glass dial on the 4th band above the broadcast band. <br/>
So, evidently Scott had at least 4 dial masks for the pointer model for the respective glass dials: the 6 band standard, and for the 3 stationized versions I am aware of: West coast, East coast and Chicago. Maybe the the stationized masks are actually applied to the back side of the green plastic backer which means 4 version of the green backer. And 2 versions of rotating disk that carries the 3 (or 4) dial lamps for the top half of the dial. That is some restoration complication! <br/>
No wonder Scott changed to the Beam of Light Stradivarius dial in 1938.<br/>
.</p> Scott,
Thanks on the edge li…tag:ehscott.ning.com,2015-01-29:3925821:Comment:470422015-01-29T01:36:20.470ZJoe Millerhttps://ehscott.ning.com/profile/JoeMiller
Scott,<br />
<br />
Thanks on the edge light cover, let me know on postage.<br />
<br />
Also thanks on the offer to send scans of the pointers. No rush on that. Even a photo would be helpful. I'm headed to Mt. Dora next week and I'll do some snooping around. You never know.<br />
Joe
Scott,<br />
<br />
Thanks on the edge light cover, let me know on postage.<br />
<br />
Also thanks on the offer to send scans of the pointers. No rush on that. Even a photo would be helpful. I'm headed to Mt. Dora next week and I'll do some snooping around. You never know.<br />
Joe Norm,
We are thinking alike.…tag:ehscott.ning.com,2015-01-29:3925821:Comment:468602015-01-29T01:27:37.916ZJoe Millerhttps://ehscott.ning.com/profile/JoeMiller
Norm,<br />
We are thinking alike. I figured I would just cut the vernier once I get the exact length. It actually is a perfect fit on the shaft and that fitting is a bit unique, so I got lucky on that.<br />
<br />
And yes on the main pointer. If I find someone who can do the job I will check with everyone here.<br />
<br />
Thanks for the good idea.<br />
Joe
Norm,<br />
We are thinking alike. I figured I would just cut the vernier once I get the exact length. It actually is a perfect fit on the shaft and that fitting is a bit unique, so I got lucky on that.<br />
<br />
And yes on the main pointer. If I find someone who can do the job I will check with everyone here.<br />
<br />
Thanks for the good idea.<br />
Joe Joe: The vernier pointer wil…tag:ehscott.ning.com,2015-01-29:3925821:Comment:470412015-01-29T00:31:53.208ZNorman S Braithwaitehttps://ehscott.ning.com/profile/NormanSBraithwaite
<p>Joe: The vernier pointer will be difficult to reproduce because of the way it mounts. The incorrect on on your set should be sufficient if cut to the correct length. If you do get to the point of having the main pointer reproduced, poll the membership here to see if it may be worthwhile to produce a small lot. The cost of the first one will be much greater than subsequent copies.</p>
<p>Norman</p>
<p>Joe: The vernier pointer will be difficult to reproduce because of the way it mounts. The incorrect on on your set should be sufficient if cut to the correct length. If you do get to the point of having the main pointer reproduced, poll the membership here to see if it may be worthwhile to produce a small lot. The cost of the first one will be much greater than subsequent copies.</p>
<p>Norman</p> I am pretty sure I have an ed…tag:ehscott.ning.com,2015-01-28:3925821:Comment:467402015-01-28T23:25:56.752ZScott Seickelhttps://ehscott.ning.com/profile/ScottSeickel
<p>I am pretty sure I have an edge light cover I can send you for the cost of shipping.<br></br> <br></br> I can also make a scan of my pointers if need be, then you can make a cad drawing and have a local metal shop fabricate. I have a guy fairly locally who will laser cut any metal pattern you can imagine up to 1/4" thick. Try to source one first from a parts set that someone may have, but if you can't get one, you may be waiting a good long time for one to become available. Unfortunately, the parts…</p>
<p>I am pretty sure I have an edge light cover I can send you for the cost of shipping.<br/> <br/> I can also make a scan of my pointers if need be, then you can make a cad drawing and have a local metal shop fabricate. I have a guy fairly locally who will laser cut any metal pattern you can imagine up to 1/4" thick. Try to source one first from a parts set that someone may have, but if you can't get one, you may be waiting a good long time for one to become available. Unfortunately, the parts set I just acquired does not have a dial.<br/> <br/> Norman, thanks for the heads up on the stationized dials...I may have ordered an East coast one to replace the current non-stationized one on my set....that would have been an oops!</p> Well, darn.
Looks like I need…tag:ehscott.ning.com,2015-01-28:3925821:Comment:467382015-01-28T22:08:36.473ZJoe Millerhttps://ehscott.ning.com/profile/JoeMiller
<p>Well, darn.</p>
<p>Looks like I need to add "find 2 dial pointers" to my list.</p>
<p>Thanks for the info,</p>
<p>Joe</p>
<p>Well, darn.</p>
<p>Looks like I need to add "find 2 dial pointers" to my list.</p>
<p>Thanks for the info,</p>
<p>Joe</p> Joe: Nice radio. I hate to…tag:ehscott.ning.com,2015-01-28:3925821:Comment:468592015-01-28T21:54:15.465ZNorman S Braithwaitehttps://ehscott.ning.com/profile/NormanSBraithwaite
<p>Joe: Nice radio. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but both of your pointers are incorrect. The main pointer should extend through the outside bands on both ends and the vernier pointer should extend only slightly past the vernier scale.</p>
<p>Norman</p>
<p>Joe: Nice radio. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but both of your pointers are incorrect. The main pointer should extend through the outside bands on both ends and the vernier pointer should extend only slightly past the vernier scale.</p>
<p>Norman</p> My red vernier pointer is 2.7…tag:ehscott.ning.com,2015-01-28:3925821:Comment:467362015-01-28T21:46:32.401ZJoe Millerhttps://ehscott.ning.com/profile/JoeMiller
<p>My red vernier pointer is 2.75 inches, it was originally red (I touched it up a bit), and appears to be original--fits too perfectly and has not been shortened. See picture, playing great, tuned to 890 WLS.</p>
<p>This baby is all done and I am happy with it. All I need to do now is:</p>
<p>1. Get a brighter 6G5 tube (tuning indicator)</p>
<p>2. Find a lamp shield for one of my edge lamps</p>
<p>3. Clean up the Warrington cabinet</p>
<p>4. Replace the speaker cloth (I have replacement…</p>
<p>My red vernier pointer is 2.75 inches, it was originally red (I touched it up a bit), and appears to be original--fits too perfectly and has not been shortened. See picture, playing great, tuned to 890 WLS.</p>
<p>This baby is all done and I am happy with it. All I need to do now is:</p>
<p>1. Get a brighter 6G5 tube (tuning indicator)</p>
<p>2. Find a lamp shield for one of my edge lamps</p>
<p>3. Clean up the Warrington cabinet</p>
<p>4. Replace the speaker cloth (I have replacement cloth in hand)</p>
<p>5. Finish marking up changes on Scott's schematic and send to him (I'm working on that right now, Scott)</p>
<p>6. Beat the wife (just kidding, checking to see if you are paying attention)</p>
<p>On to the next challenge,</p>
<p>Joe</p> Joe: I can't say that I have…tag:ehscott.ning.com,2015-01-28:3925821:Comment:470402015-01-28T17:30:55.931ZNorman S Braithwaitehttps://ehscott.ning.com/profile/NormanSBraithwaite
<p>Joe: I can't say that I have. What is the length of your red vernier pointer and is the end cut or stamped? There is a possibility that you have a replacement garnered from a clock. If it were on one of my sets, whether or not it is original I would keep it red. I like the idea of a red vernier pointer but I would not repaint an original red unless I had reasonably conclusive knowledge that it was originally offered in red.</p>
<p>Norman</p>
<p>Joe: I can't say that I have. What is the length of your red vernier pointer and is the end cut or stamped? There is a possibility that you have a replacement garnered from a clock. If it were on one of my sets, whether or not it is original I would keep it red. I like the idea of a red vernier pointer but I would not repaint an original red unless I had reasonably conclusive knowledge that it was originally offered in red.</p>
<p>Norman</p> Nice catch Norman. BTW have…tag:ehscott.ning.com,2015-01-28:3925821:Comment:468582015-01-28T16:39:23.465ZJoe Millerhttps://ehscott.ning.com/profile/JoeMiller
<p>Nice catch Norman. BTW have you seen any other Philly's with the red vernier pointer?</p>
<p>Nice catch Norman. BTW have you seen any other Philly's with the red vernier pointer?</p>