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Replacing Capacitors in a Box and Finding B+ build-out resistors

I was replacing capacitors on my Philharmonic until I ran out. I am now awaiting an order.

So, I decided to mess around and attempt to open up that soldered box (Rider symbol 74, Scott p/n 1321, see p. 14-46 of Rider). Someone mentioned that they did it with a Dremel so I gave it a try starting with the bottom plate which you see opened here and labeled 'May 4, 1339'.

I found that there are two layers of metal, a box within a box. Then there is cardboard that oozes black tar. Any suggestions on what to do next?...dig it out, open another side (don't like that), cut the wires and make a new box?

Different topic, same radio: someone suggested that I replace all 1K B+ build-out resistors. Would they be R9? I see about 11 of them on the circuit drawing, several of which attach to a B+ feed. It also looks like there is one in each of the IF coil cans (left side of receiver looking down from top; don't know if I am naming them correctly). So far I only found one under the radio; those colored bands are not in good shape.

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I have not had any problem with the 1k resistors in Philharmonic receivers.  In fact, I have found them to be very precise and reliable.  On the other hand I have had early production AW-23 sets where I had to replace every one but the problem in the AW-23 was not limited to the 1k resistors.

Norman

Ken,

I was able to open the can with lots of heat along the seams with a large iron while using a small screwdriver to hold the seams apart. Under the cardboard is a block of capacitor innards held in place with tar or similar. A heat gun will soften the tar so you can get the cap block out. It's going to be tough unless you have the bottom completely off. Good luck.

Thanks for the responses, Norman and Bill.

I tried a soldering iron on the box first. No luck. I'll try again with more watts.
And hopefully my resistors will test good too. The one that I did check was spot on.

Ken:

I use a prying tool and a torch to heat the entire side after finding the single side that can be separated.  Great care must be exercised to avoid any of many possible injuries!

Norman

If an injury is possible I'll make it probable.
I have the scars to prove it.
Urgent care is where I met an old college friend. We caught up as he stitched me up.

If I had worn gloves and used a vice to hold the capacitor block about 80% of the risk would be mitigated but I had conducted the operation bare handed on the garage floor where the hot capacitor block and melting solder were free to roam.  Next time I believe I will wear gloves and use a vice to hold the capacitor block!

After a heart attack when 750 miles from home, my brother learned that his excellent emergency care heart surgeon is our cousin!  Neither knew the relationship before hand.  What a way to meet extended family.

Norman

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