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The Fine Things are Always Hand Made

My father recently passed away and left a Scott tuner and amp. I had a few questions about it and was wondering if someone here might be able to help. I am attaching some pictures and hopefully they come through. There is also a pretty big speaker that says Scott on it. There are some knobs for the tuner but they are not on the tuner in the picture. I do not have a cabinet. This radio looks like it was completely chromed and the chrome is in nice condition. My questions are:
1) What Scott radio is this?
2) Are cabinets available for these types of radios?
3) I am guessing this radio does not work and would have to be serviced. A friend of mine who is a retires EE said on these old radios the capacitors typically need to be replaced. He looked at the bottom of this unit and said it appears to be all original. He also said this model looks to have a very early FM tuner on it based on the scale on the dial. All of the switches and knobs work/turn. Any ideas on who would do this type of restoration and a range of what it might cost?
4) If I don't decide to go ahead and put the money into making this play again, are these type of radios something folks would be interested in? ie. Does it have value and if so, is there a range that someone could suggest? I understand this question is based on a lot of factors such as how much rehab needs to be done to the radio, condition, speaker condition, etc.

Thanks much for any help that can be provided.

Forrest    This kept erroring out with my pictures so I am trying it without the pictures to see if I can even post anything!

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Apparently my pictures are what was causing me to not post this previously.  I will take some lower resolution photos to see if that helps.  I know it is tough to answer any of my questions without pictures.

Hello Forest.   Do post a few photos. Then we can provide some information.

Technical information is available on this web site.

E H Scott was a custom set builder and, upon receiving a purchase order, then built and tested the radio and shipped it in,  say, 3 to 5 weeks. Very high end radios employing leading edge technology. Scott offered a choice of as many as six to a dozen cabinets (most exclusive to Scott customers) at various prices starting at about $20 to $25 to well over $100. His chrome plated series started in 1931 and continued into early 1942 of WW2. Not every buyer ordered a Scott cabinet. And Scott did custom installations. Hence, Scott radios appear with no cabinet or  retrofitted in nice old cabinets.

Tube count grew from 12 tubes in 1931 and progressed to 15, then 23 and eventually 30 and 33 tubes for the late 1930's Philharmonic series. The 23 tube model and Philharmonic models were true high fidelity with the optional tweeters. They all sound good once properly restored electrically.

Starting in 1933, the serial number plate carried the statement: "The Fine Things Are Always Hand Made".

Late 1930 dials carried the "Stradavarius of Radio"  violin design.

If you have trouble adding pictures, you can email them to me (site admin), and I can format and connect them to this thread. My email is kent3256@hotmail.com.

Kent

Folks - Here are the pics of Forest's father's set. It is a Phantom Deluxe. 

Kent

The chrome looks pretty good and all the tube shields are there.

Did not expect to see that amp with that Phantom Deluxe receiver. The logging scale on the dial indicates a 1940 or 1941 Phantom Deluxe model, or very late 1939. That amp pictured has the configuration of the 1938-9 Phantom amp with the two 6J5's on the left end and two 6V6 output tubes in the middle. The amp I expected has the two 6J5's next to a pair of 6L6's in the middle and two 5U4's rectifiers by the big transformer.

Unless ... the middle pair are 6L6's and the tube sockets are embossed with 6L6 around the edges. If so, maybe Scott used up an old style amp base in inventory. Or the radio went back to the factory and Scott put the new style dial with logging scale as an update.

The standard Scott Speaker might be either a 12 inch or a 15 inch, silver crackle paint and a Scott decal with plug that fits one of the sockets on the amp. Does your speaker have a silver 7 pin plug or an octal style 8 pin plug?

Thanks for replying!  The speaker is 12" and it has 8 metal pins on the socket centered around a larger plastic "pin".  The speaker has model 302 on it and it does say Scott on the metal plate.  Not sure if I should check something on the amp?

I checked on the back of the amp and it does have an 8 pin female socket for the speaker.  The male connector pins on the 2 cords coming off the tuner do match up with the female sockets on the back of the amp.  I did find a picture of another Phantom Deluxe amp and see that it has a 7 pin female connector.  Not sure what all this tells you.

The Scott PHANTOM was first introduced September 1938 as a 19 tube radio with 6 controls plus dual speed dial control and your design power supply/amp and 12 inch speaker. Amp rated at 16 watt output. Broadcast AM band and 3 short wave bands topping out at .

You appear to have the 2nd version Phantom receiver of 1940: the 20 tube Phantom Deluxe first introduced August 1939 having 1) an additional control below the tuning dial and 2) an additional tube - a VR-150 voltage regulator to better stabilize the oscillator tube and, for 1940, the logging scale was added. Also a redesigned power supply/amp rated at 25 watt output with two each of 6J5, 6L6 and 5U4.and initially a 15 inch speaker (later in 1940, a 12 inch as the standard speaker or the optional 4 unit high fidelity speaker system).

Your power supply/amp is the version for the earlier 19 tube Phantom (two each of 6J5, 6V6 and 5V4 rectifier per the Scott news issues). And so is your earlier 12 inch speaker with it's octal speaker plug.

So - I wonder if your receiver went back to the Scott factory for a repair and was updated with some current features (the dial, voltage regulator tube, and added control). Or perhaps Scott Laboratories simply returned a current production receiver (which would be comparable with the early version amp and speaker). No way to tell now.

To get oriented with the Phantom and features, there are a couple issues of Scott News featuring the Phantom you might look through. From the home page top right, In the Archives section, then click on Scott News folder.:  

1938 Vol 11 No 4  (SN-9-38) - cover photo and article starting page 4.  - introducing the 19 tube Phantom..

                Unfortunately the page 4 photo shows a phototype receiver, but the cover photo is correct.

1939. Vol 11 No 5 (SN -5-39). - page 2 and page 4-onward. - introducing the 20 tube Phantom Deluxe.

Then back out of the "Scott News" folder and choose "Set Folders" and open "Phantom.

Select the last two Phantom Instruction manuals - one is for the Phantom and the other Phantom Deluxe.

(Ignore the top row instruction manuals as they are for the 28 tube FM model.)

Thanks for the information. It is much appreciated. Because the amp is not a real match for the tuner, does that mean this is not desirable? Or, does that not really matter? And, can you or anyone else answer some of the questions I posted in my first message? Are there folks who can repair these? Can anyone provide a name of folks who do repair these and quite a range of what it might cost? I am trying to determine if I want to put the money into bringing this back to life. And if I don’t want to do that, is this in a condition where someone else might want it?

Thanks much for the time.

Sincerely,

Forrest

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