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 I just got into this fascinating hobby.  Just redid a couple of radios I grew up with - a Majestic 1941, and Philco Model14 - 1933, chassis only. Now working on a Philco 96, 1930.  I decided I needed a real radio and found a Scott 16 in an Acousticraft cabinet.  It's not in the greatest shape as there is a fair amount of chrome damage and it is missing a few parts.  The receiver, power supply and speaker are intact and fairly unmolested, but I need knobs, the large dial pointer and a replacement plastic dial cover.  Are there reproductions of these parts?  Or, in particular, does anyone have a pointer they might want to sell?  I guess I can live with non original knobs and I think I could vacuum form a new dial cover.  I couldn't find anything at Radio Daze.

This project will be on the back burner for awhile, especially as I research dealing with the rust areas in the chrome.  Not sure I want to completely strip the chassis and have it re-plated.  I guess it depends on what it's value might be completely restored.

I've done a little research on the 16 in the forum's archives.  I'm not really sure of what I've got. I don't know how popular the 16 was or how it performed compared to the other Scott models.  Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks!

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I've got to dig up the contact info, but there is a guy that does the plastic dial covers, and his work is spectacular. The knobs for a 16 are more "generic" than most Scott knobs, you should be able to find some. The really tough item will be the dial pointer. There are actually two pointers, a large tuning one and a smaller "second hand" logging pointer. I'll try to post some pics, maybe others can too. 

Oh, btw: Welcome to our group! What is the serial number of your set?

Kent

Thanks!  I've seen pics of the dial for a 16 so I know what it looks like.  I have the small indicator, only need the large one.  I've been looking at some Emerson's and Philco's.  Some of them have a pointer that is "similar".  Don't know if I could make one of those work.  There aught to be many sacrificial such radios around.

The serial number of my 16 is DD180.  Is there a list that gives exact manufacture date? It needs a lot of cosmetic work but I don't see much inside that has been changed.  Are the tube covers chromed as well?  It looks like they could just be polished aluminum.  But there is a fair amount of pitted chrome over the receiver and  a lot on the amp.

I'd like to clean up the dial face.  What can be safely used?

As you can see, I'm full of questions as I am new to this and know almost nothing about Scott's. So, there'll be a lot more!



Kent King said:

I've got to dig up the contact info, but there is a guy that does the plastic dial covers, and his work is spectacular. The knobs for a 16 are more "generic" than most Scott knobs, you should be able to find some. The really tough item will be the dial pointer. There are actually two pointers, a large tuning one and a smaller "second hand" logging pointer. I'll try to post some pics, maybe others can too. 

Oh, btw: Welcome to our group! What is the serial number of your set?

Kent

The replacement plastic dial covers:  MARK PALMQUIST    dba as Retro Radio Repair

http://50.87.249.58/~dialcove/jmpalm/Inventory.htm.

Yours should have a brass dial bezel. First contact Mark. Then send him the dial bezel. He will instal a new repo plastic cover with the correct tiny brass rivets. I got fast turnaround and quality workmanship.

As for the large tuning knob, it is really hard to find, and needing one, I finally had a few resin repos made - with two set screws as they should. - $20 including postage while they last.

As for the tube shields for a Scott Sixteen: some examples had chrome plated tube shields and other examples had polished aluminum shields. Either is correct.

I use Turtle brand liquid chrome polish on chrome. Mother's MAG polish on aluminum.

A proper electronic restoration produces a really good radio. I have restored two of them.  The Sixteen uses many of the same parts as a Philharmonic.  Just fewer features and less audio power and not the same high frequency response. The Accousticraft cabinet is a really nice cabinet. 

And GT and metal tubes won't fit the sockets because of the tube shield mounts - so unless the tube shield mounts have been altered (torn up), you need the shouldered "G" type tubes for the receiver.

Good luck.

Thanks David.  I think my tube shields are polished aluminum,not chrome.  all of the tubes in the radio are of the sholdered type.

I'll buy your knob!  Just give me contact/payment info.  I'll also contact Mark.  thanks for the info!  i need to find the rest of the knobs as well so if you have any sources, let me know.

what is the best way to clean up the dial face?  I don't want to do any damage.  The ink on some radios, I'm told, is water soluble.  What chemicals can I safely use?

David C. Poland said:

As for the tube shields for a Scott Sixteen: some examples had chrome plated tube shields and other examples had polished aluminum shields. Either is correct.

I use Turtle brand liquid chrome polish on chrome. Mother's MAG polish on aluminum.

A proper electronic restoration produces a really good radio. I have restored two of them.  The Sixteen uses many of the same parts as a Philharmonic.  Just fewer features and less audio power and not the same high frequency response. The Accousticraft cabinet is a really nice cabinet. 

And GT and metal tubes won't fit the sockets because of the tube shield mounts - so unless the tube shield mounts have been altered (torn up), you need the shouldered "G" type tubes for the receiver.

Good luck.

Hi David. How do i go about buying one of your tuning knobs? I'll happily pay your price.  I can send a check or can paypal the $$.  Just let me know what you need.

Rob

David C. Poland said:

The replacement plastic dial covers:  MARK PALMQUIST    dba as Retro Radio Repair

http://50.87.249.58/~dialcove/jmpalm/Inventory.htm.

Yours should have a brass dial bezel. First contact Mark. Then send him the dial bezel. He will instal a new repo plastic cover with the correct tiny brass rivets. I got fast turnaround and quality workmanship.

As for the large tuning knob, it is really hard to find, and needing one, I finally had a few resin repos made - with two set screws as they should. - $20 including postage while they last.

Regarding serial numbers: we do not have hard dates on Scott sets. All the original data was lost back in the 1950s. For over 25 years, I have been collecting, estimating and extrapolating data on the Scott serial numbers. In your case, I can give you a narrow window - you are very fortunate! Your set was produced sometime between Sep 10 and Oct 2, 1937. I have good dates either side of it. 

Kent

Robert Feenstra said:

Thanks!  I've seen pics of the dial for a 16 so I know what it looks like.  I have the small indicator, only need the large one.  I've been looking at some Emerson's and Philco's.  Some of them have a pointer that is "similar".  Don't know if I could make one of those work.  There aught to be many sacrificial such radios around.

The serial number of my 16 is DD180.  Is there a list that gives exact manufacture date? It needs a lot of cosmetic work but I don't see much inside that has been changed.  Are the tube covers chromed as well?  It looks like they could just be polished aluminum.  But there is a fair amount of pitted chrome over the receiver and  a lot on the amp.

I'd like to clean up the dial face.  What can be safely used?

As you can see, I'm full of questions as I am new to this and know almost nothing about Scott's. So, there'll be a lot more!



Kent King said:

I've got to dig up the contact info, but there is a guy that does the plastic dial covers, and his work is spectacular. The knobs for a 16 are more "generic" than most Scott knobs, you should be able to find some. The really tough item will be the dial pointer. There are actually two pointers, a large tuning one and a smaller "second hand" logging pointer. I'll try to post some pics, maybe others can too. 

Oh, btw: Welcome to our group! What is the serial number of your set?

Kent

Thanks Kent!

I just started an Atwater Kent 55F that I will have to strip because of mouse damage to the chassis.  It will be good practice for the Scott even though the Scott is much more involved!  I kind of would like to go the whole way with this radio, including re-chroming the chassis.  A lot of work, though.  I'll probably have the cabinet refinished professionally.  There is a guy here in Grand Rapids who has done a lot of radios.  I will, no doubt, get much more invested than I could ever hope to get out of the radio should I ever decide to sell.  But then, it's fun!

I have an email in to Mark Palmquist for a new dial cover.  Now if only I could find the rest of the knobs and the long pointer!

Robert - my repo large tuning knob for your Scott Sixteen is resin, the proper dark brown with 2 set screws like an original. $20  (mailing in US)    PayPal to me   dcp944@yahoo.com.

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The other  5 knobs are 1 inch diameter (any larger obscured the control escutcheons) for 1/4 inch shafts,

Check at radio swap meets - usually several selling knobs - is where i sometimes find them.

The three are round (for Bass and Fidelity and the smaller Tuning ) are easier to find at radio swap meets.

The two pinch type of same style (Volume & Wave Change) seem harder to find.

Look at the Braeside photo in the SET Folders on this website, in the Scott Info Archives.

I will try to upload  up close photo that includes these two knob types.

Thanks David. The up close photo would be appreciated.

Payment on the way!

close up photos of the brown bakelite/plastic knobs appear in the photos section.

The round and pinch type appear at the lower center and lower left

Much appreciated! I have a good idea of what to look for.  In scanning through the photos of the various 16's, there seems to be disagreement on where the pinch style knobs go.

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