Newby Looking for information on a E H Scott

[Terry Hicks]

I am new to radio collecting and I stumbled across this Scott radio for sale. While I have done re-caps of some fairly simple radios, this may be way beyond my comfort level. All I can tell you is that it appears to be a Warrinton 23 AllWave. The chrome in the lower chassis shows some substantial bubbles on top of the cans (bubbles up to 1/8" in diameter). The cabinet itself is a little dusty, but looks like it might get away with a simple application of GoJo. The two bars across the from of the cabinet are not attached. One contact thinks this is not the right chassis for this cabinet. The seller has not stated a price yet, so I am not at all sure where he is headed on this one. Some of his prices seem high on other radios, but he also seems willing to come down a lot. Any advice would be very greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Terry Hicks

[Norman S Braithwaite]

Terry:

Welcome!  The value of the set depends greatly on details that are not apparent in the photos posted.  Can you provide photos of the speakers and of how the chassis are placed in the cabinet?  I am not convinced that the cabinet and chassis are not correct for each other but I do understand how one can come to that conclusion.  Photos from the back of the set should help.  From the front, the faceplate is incorrect or cut down from the original.  I do not agree that the faceplate is the "shipping" faceplate because it is much wider and a little taller than the standard shipping faceplate.  One item of concern is that the small trim pieces at the top corners of the speaker opening are not present.  I believe these are integral to the original face board (not really a faceplate since the board was integral to the cabinet rather than fastened to the chassis and pushed up to an opening).  Also the tweeter openings appear large to me.  The woofer opening is cut for a 12-inch speaker supporting an argument that the cabinet is correct for the AW-23 chassis.  However, there is a possibility that the cabinet was from a late AM-FM Philharmonic or Phantom with the four unit speaker option.  Most of the sets with this speaker option were equipped with a 12-inch woofer and a pair of tweeters a little larger than those used with the AW-23.  Are tweeters even present?

Norman

[Terry Hicks]

Not sure about the tweeters. I will wait a few days and get some more pictures, etc. I don't want to tip my hand to the seller, before I know a little more. You are asking me the kinds of questions I want to hear. Thanks so much.

[Terry Hicks]

Norman,
I was able to see exactly what you are describing in my pictures. I have a few questions. If I were to get this, is a schematic available? I notice the knobs are not correct. They seem to be a mishmash. Are they available? As far as the trim pieces and the faceplate... are they something that I need to be overly concerned about?

Thanks,
Terry

[Norman S Braithwaite]

Service data including schematics are available by clicking on "Scott Info Archive" above "options" at the top of this page.  As I have posted in Antiqueradios.com, all but one knob is original.  The two octagonal knobs belong on the bottom controls. Finding or even making the one missing knob should not be difficult.  I believe the original panel was part of the cabinet rather than a face plate mounted to the chassis.  In addition to replacing the corner trim pieces, there may be some difficulty placing the panel behind the front side panels while also in front of the tuner chassis shelf.  An inspection will be necessary to confirm or maybe someone with this cabinet at hand can inspect and report.

Norman

[Terry Hicks]

Thanks Norman! You have been very helpful.

Merry Christmas,
Terry Hicks

[David C. Poland]

Terry - I had also posted a comment on your ARF thread.

The Warrington cabinet dimensions  are 40 1/2 wide, 27' tall and 19" deep. It is sized to accommodate  the even larger 30 tube Scott Philharmonic introduced Spring of 1937. 

However, I have a Scott price list showing your late 7 knob version 23 tube Allwave High Fidelity model in the subject Warrington cabinet. Scott continued offering the 23 tube Allwave for many months after the Philharmonic introduction. The Warrington was one of 8 cabinets available is this price list.  FYI - Other smaller Scott models like the later 19 and 20 tube Phantoms show up in the large cabinets such as the Warrington.

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So, while I doubt your 23 tube Allwave is original to that cabinet as observed by Norman,  the Warrington cabinet is none the less a correct cabinet for the 23 tube Allwave.model.   

If mine, I would just make a new front panel. Use 3/8  inch cabinet quality plywood. Veneer it with some nice walnut veneer

Woodcraft Stores are one source for such plywood and packages of booked veneers. Use the existing panel as a pattern to cut a proper sized panel.

 

[Scott Seickel]

The Warrington cabinet for my AW23 is slightly smaller than the Philharmonic Warrington's.  Most notably in the depth, where it is 2" shallower. 

[David C. Poland]

Thanks Scott.  

I am pretty sure I had seen the shallower version Warrington.  I just had no price list with your dimensions along my Scott Literature. The Warrington design proceeded by several months the Philharmonic intro announcement.

Your cabinet have the side grills too?

[Scott Seickel]

Yes, it does have the side grills David.  I purchased this cabinet only hoping to put a Philharmonic into it, but was disappointed due to it's smaller depth dimensions. (it is also 3/4" shorter).   Still, it is a pristine example of an early Warren cabinet, and I finally got a 7 knob AW 23 chassis to fit it.