My First Scott...

[ken brown]

Hello to All.  Just purchased my first Scott radio a little over a week ago.  It is a Custom Built Philharmonic pointer dial in a Warrington cabinet.  Overall the set is complete and in fair condition.

Chrome is pitted on the tube and coil covers but still shiny after polishing.  Chassis seems to

be unmolested with only a couple of replacement caps in the amp/power supply.  The dial

glass is broken and the set is missing one of the "plain" variety original knobs.  The grille

cloth is salvageable with only a couple of tatters.  The cabinet is solid and hopefully won't need

a full restoration.  One high point is that the radio does have the tweeters installed and I even

have the original wood "blanks" from the grille. 

I'm still in the cleaning, documenting and investigation stage of the restoration and it looks like

I'm going to need something better than the usual online resources.  What is the best source

for finding a good schematic for this radio?  I found what was offered on Nostalgia Air but the

schematic is unreadable in many places.  Is there a component list available so that I can come

up with a list of capacitors to purchase?  Alan Jesperson has already said that he can help with

the missing knob.  What is the best source for replacing the broken dial glass and how expensive

could that get? 

The woofer speaker has a tear and small hole but both can probably be repaired.  I may later

opt to send it out for reconing after I finish the electrical restoration.  Still trying to decide if

I will "stuff" the original caps.  I have done this before on a 19 tube Admiral and it is quite a job.

Either way, there is a lot to do and it's a bit overwhelming. 

Any advice for a new Scott owner will be appreciated.  I could use all the help I can get. 

ken

[David C. Poland]

Ken, a worthy project.

Go to the Scott Documents site. . copy and Bookmark it.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0K3TBSz_27rNzRiZDFlM2ItN2E...

There are 4 main folders. Explore them. You should find, open, download and print off for your Scott Philharmonic ------ diagrams, factory technical data, owners manual and some SCOTT NEWS issues that describe the Philharmonic features. That should get you started.

[David C. Poland]

You have the first version commonly referred to as a "pointer dial" model. Among the featured: high fidelity audio, 40 watt output, low volume activated scratch suppressor, variable sensitivity, variable selectivity, volume expander, bass, treble, and voltage regulator for the oscillator..

For a replacement dial - check Radio Daze
http://www.radiodaze.com, select graphics and then E H Scott.

[ken brown]

Thanks David!  Don't know how I missed those.  Much better set of prints and parts layout!

[ken brown]

Do you know if the Radio Daze dial glass will include the green gel behind it?  My gel is solid but dirty.  Can I

clean it with mild dish soap and water?  I have used Novus polish on similar types of gels (jukeboxes and such)

with good results. 

[John T. Meredith]

I have a 16 with the remote control unit.  This is the same remote control unit found on Philharmonics and Phantoms.  The 16 with remote is unusual.  The unit plugged into the back and had a ribbon cable.  Hope this helps.

 

Cheers,

 

John Meredith

[David C. Poland]

JOHN - you got your comment on the wrong thread.

KEN - I am sure the repo dial glass would come without the green backer. The repo dial glass should have all the graphics you need. Notice Radio Daze lists several variations. Compare carefully with your cracked one. You have the pointer dial without call letters. (Some dials have a 7th band above the broadcast band with local station call letters shown, like my own Philly with the Chicago station call letters. Hence reference at Radio Daze site to the version with east coast or west coast call letters.)

The green backer is separate as I recall from long ago. Suggest you clean your green backer as best you can. Perhaps test use of auto polish in a corner -may be effective - helps scuffed sunglass lens and those old clear plastic radio dial covers. Should be color fast but maybe a bit faded. Perhaps you can reverse it if the other side is better. From the photo of yours on the truck, looks like the lettering on your broken dial has smeared over the years from the effects of sunlight. Hopefully the green backer is unaffected.

Your cabinet looks pretty good, and appears the "D" strip detail near the top of the front corners is intact too - a fortunate bonus. The Warrington is a very nice design, and probably the most often seen with the Philharmonic in it..

[ken brown]

I may have spoken too soon about the readability of the schematic.  Although it's better than Nostalgia Air, it does pixilate badly when I try to expand it enough to read the values.  Although I don't own a paper copy of Rider's, I may be able to get access to one in town. 

Also, there's a list of parts that were modified in later versions of the radio.  The Philharmonic technical notes states that parts were added or deleted and the details were made to the circuit diagram.  Unfortunately, so far it is difficult to read the values and parts i.d.'s on the diagram. 

[David C. Poland]

Yes - Parts of it are crammed with data. The original receiver diagram is a fold out 11 x 18 sheet in the Riders. You'll get the best result making your own copy if you can borrow an original page you need from someone who has the Riders volume. Make a couple copies so you have one to work from.

[Scott Seickel]

All the schematics out there are junk to work off of. 

I did a complete redraw of the AM/FM and the early Philharmonic. 

See my last post in this thread for more info:  http://ehscott.ning.com/forum/topics/eh-scott-philharmonic

ken brown said:

I may have spoken too soon about the readability of the schematic.  

[David C. Poland]

Ken (& Scott) The Rider's diagram for the Philharmonic pointer should be correct for your pointer dial.

Disclaimer- only real hands on experience with the Philharmonic is my own Pointer dial model.

The AM only pointer dial (1937-8) and beam of light dial (38-41) AM only models are pretty much identical. Same features and circuits to my knowledge. The BOL dial introduced the Stradivarius logo but dropped the pointer and also dropped the small logging inner dial pointer, but still had the same 6 controls plus the push pull scratch suppressor button below the tuning knobs.

The AM only BOL control configuration did change by early 1939 with the addition of 2 additional controls knobs - as described in the Scott News issue Vol II (meaning eleven) #3 of March 1939 (issue title is 'New Scott Receivers Create Sensation on Ocean Liner" - and not to be confused with the 1938 issue also labeled Vol 11 # 3 - Scott duped the prior rear volume # for several 1939 issues ) . One of the additional knobs replaced the scratch suppressor button. I believe the other represented the separation of the treble control pot from the selectivity-fidelity control. The last variation of the AM only Philharmonic (1940-41?) further revises the dial by adding a logging scale visible through the clear window at the top of the dial. Maybe someone else can comment further on this BOL evolution information.

The FM-AM Philharmonic model added FM circuits, but removed the volume expander, dropped the ultra high SW band to incorporate the old FM band and raised the tube count to 33. Thus the AM circuit diagram is incomplete when dealing with the FM-AM model. So look at the Riders index for "Philharmonic AM-FM" in Volume 14, starting page 5 of Scott for the complete diagram entitled "Philharmonic Combination", diagram dated Oct 21, 1940.. Also the text for the Phantom FM-AM and the following pages titled "Model FM" which would apply to the FM section of the several pre war models with FM band. Information on the optional 4 piece speaker system is included in Model FM pages of Riders.

In summary, Riders volumes 14 and 15 are really valuable to a Scott collector as a source of high resolution Scott diagrams and data for models from the later 1934 model Fifteen (not the Wunderlich tube models) to the 1941 Laureate AM-FM, Be sure to page through any volume to be sure Scott pages are present before purchasing either volume.

[Scott Seickel]

   David,

I cannot seem to find this issue of Scott News on this web site's Google drive.  Do you know if it is available on the internet anywhere?  I would be interested in reading what you reference.

David C. Poland said:

The AM only BOL control configuration did change by early 1939 with the addition of 2 additional controls knobs - as described in the Scott News issue Vol II (meaning eleven) #3 of March 1939 (issue title is 'New Scott Receivers Create Sensation on Ocean Liner" - and not to be confused with the 1938 issue also labeled Vol 11 # 3 - Scott duped the prior rear volume # for several 1939 issues ) .

[Kent King]

Scott -

Go up to the top of the page, and click on the "Scott Info Archive". There are 3 folders in there, one of them is called "Scott News". I've got 56 issues in there....I need to scan the others and get them up there too.

Kent